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Rittman City Council
Met in
A Regular Meeting
on Monday, July 9, 2007 at 7:00 p.m.
| Members
Present: |
Charles
Copley, Faye Telford, Richard Lapehn, |
| |
James
Johnson and Glen Russell |
| Members
Absent: |
Steve
Johnson |
| Presiding: |
Mayor
William Robertson |
Invocation was
given by: Sister Joan Rader, P.O. followed by the Pledge
of Allegiance.
Oath
of Office
Michael T. Burg – Chief of Police
Mayor William Robertson graciously allowed Council President
Glen Russell to
administer the Oath to long time friend Michael Burg.
Public
Hearing – 2008 Tax Budget
Finance Director Lucinda Mann advised they have gone over
the tax budget with Council already and this was opportunity
for the public to comment or ask any questions they might
have regarding the tax budget
No questions were asked.
Approval
of Minutes – June 11, 2007
Russell advised there was one correction where the minutes
use the word tractor and it should be the word trailer during
discussion of the Service Department Budget.
James moved to approve as amended, all Yeas on roll call
and motion carried.
Workshop
1. Discussion of the 2008 Budget – Utilities
and Recreation Departments
Utilities Department
It was noted, Utilities Director Metcalf was unable to attend
due to a family
emergency and City Manager Larry Boggs advised he would
try to answer questions regarding the Utilities Budget or
get an answer for Council at the next meeting.
Russell inquired as to the engineering costs for wastewater
increasing by 75% as to what projects were being proposed
in 2008.
Telford inquired regarding engineering costs increasing
60% in the water department.
Boggs advised they were looking at doing the Milton Road
Lift Station Project. Boggs advised they were looking into
the possibility that they could install a “sleeve”
and save 40% of the project costs. Boggs advised the increased
engineering costs in the Utility Budget, was also due to
other projects such as a waterline replacement on Industrial
Street where an old waterline keeps breaking as well as
if they decide the City needs a new water tower. He advised
every time a project is decided upon there would be engineering
costs involved. Boggs advised previously there were very
few of these projects going on in the City and the reason
for such a dramatic increase.
Russell inquired as to why there was a reduction in fuel.
Boggs advised he would talk with the Utilities Director
and get an answer.
James inquired if the increase in overtime was due to the
increase in salaries/in the water department.
Mann advised over the last few years they have had a lot
more overtime due to water breaks.
Copley advised in a lot of the maintenance accounts especially
in the sewer fund, there was a 20% increase and he inquired
if that was due to older equipment or a price increase.
Boggs advised he would again ask the Utilities Director
and bring an answer back to Council. He advised he asked
for a list of five capital improvement projects from the
water and sewer departments to be brought to Council and
they could then determine what was the most needed projects.
Boggs advised as well as some old equipment, which needed
replaced such as the Sewer Jet, which was an expensive piece
of equipment and they would be bringing that list to Council
in the near future.
Russell advised there was no change in the budget as far
as sludge was concerned, but it was his understanding there
was something being done to reduce those costs in the future.
Boggs
advised Utilities Director Metcalf was trying something
new this year and he entered into a contract where there
was an agreement for us to take in as well as get rid of,
which greatly reduced the costs to the City easing the budget
in that category.
Recreation Department
Recreation Director Ivan Kovacevic advised most of the changes
in the proposed budget were related to the pool hopefully
being reopened again and were figures, which basically revert
to the ones before the pool was closed in October of 2006.
He advised those include such things as lifeguard salaries
and chemicals for the pool. Kovacevic advised the other
increases listed were related to new programs they have
taken on such as the baseball and softball programs, which
include additional umpire/referee fees. He advised a lot
of the anticipated increases in expenses were in direct
relation to what they anticipate coming in with program
revenue. He advised more teams mean more games, which mean
more refs.
James inquired if the number of part-time salaries budgeted
was enough as it was only approximately $5,000 over the
’07 budget.
Kovacevic advised it should be enough as often times he
fills in for a position to save on budget. Kovacevic advised
this estimate factors everything into the budget assuming
they don’t have him covering the desk.
Copley inquired regarding the additional programs if they
were spending more for the program than the net result of
the program.
Kovacevic advised for the most part they try to implement
programs that will break even until they are established
and very few programs run with any kind of loss. He advised
although Kids Corner may not completely pay for itself,
it does bring in additional revenue through the adult fitness
programs and through those who now have memberships who
normally would not because they have the option of their
kids being supervised.
Russell advised he sees where many of the maintenance/custodial
work was being done in-house.
Kovacevic agreed and advised they have their own machine
now for scrubbing and buffing the floors and it handles
the majority of what needed to be done and for anything
else they can hire outside.
2.
Discussion of Increasing Cemetery Rates
City Manager Boggs advised a cemetery board meeting was
held and it was discovered there has not been any rate increases
since 1996. Boggs advised he provided Council with a list
of what surrounding communities were charging as well as
the recommended rate increases from the cemetery board.
Boggs advised if Council agrees with the increases, it would
come to them in ordinance form for their consideration and
approval. He advised this would also give people time to
take advantage of the current rates before the ordinance
would be passed and go into effect.
|
Current
Rates |
| Open
Grave |
Lot
Resident |
Lot
Non Resident |
| $400
|
$350 |
$450 |
|
Proposed
Rates |
| Open
Grave |
Lot
Resident |
Lot
Non Resident |
| $500
|
$400
|
$500 |
Open
a grave on Saturday
$500 |
|
Boggs
advised the cemetery board would also like to have the rules
and regulations for the cemetery revised and he and Mr.
Gillman were working on bringing something to Council for
their consideration before implementation. Boggs advised
regarding the flat headstone section, as very few of those
lots were selling, they were recommending a revision to
the existing policy and allow more traditional tombstones
in this section. Boggs advised this could open up a lot
more gravesites they didn’t think they had previously
and would not create such an urgency to get the new section
opened although they still would like to proceed with engineering
and get it started.
Copley inquired if the proposed rate increases were due
to a requirement or just a matter of increasing them just
because they were lower than the surrounding areas.
Boggs advised they were not in trouble with the cemetery
budget or the cemetery endowment fund. He advised the rate
increase recommendation was basically to keep more in line
with our neighbors.
Copley advised one of his concerns was he felt it was a
conflicting argument to let people know they would be increasing
the rates and yet allow them time to purchase them at the
old rate. Copley advised it sounded as if the rate increase
wasn’t really needed, but they were just doing it
to keep
up with the surrounding towns and he didn’t feel it
was necessarily a good reason to raise rates in his mind.
Lapehn inquired as to the balance in the cemetery endowment
fund. He inquired if that fund was used to pay the salary
of the cemetery employees.
Finance Director Mann advised the salaries were not paid
from the cemetery endowment fund as that had to be some
kind of capital expense such as 8’ of concrete necessary
under each headstone or the purchase of equipment or installing
a new road, etc. Mann advised the salaries or minor supplies
or the electric bill were paid from the general fund. She
advised currently the cemetery endowment fund had a balance
of $97,000 unencumbered, which was supported by half the
cost of a gravesite so, if grave sales were down, of course
that fund would be down.
Boggs advised they could work on bringing Council a more
precise estimate of opening the new section to give them
a better idea of what it was going to cost.
Copley advised that would be more of a justification to
raise the rates.
Mayor Robertson advised he has been getting some feedback
from citizens regarding maintenance of areas, which weren’t
opened up yet.
Boggs advised that was the first he heard that concern as
the cemetery board felt the cemetery was very well maintained.
Russell agreed.
Lapehn suggested before changing the rules or enforcing
the written policy in place, they should send out a notice
to the residents because of the emotional impact of any
change.
Boggs advised he felt the biggest issue the last time the
policy was enforced was that it was done as a mass removal
of items at gravesites without prior notice. Boggs indicated
he would like to give some sort of notice to allow families
time to gather their items before they were removed. He
advised they would do as much as they could to make people
aware of it before “jumping into it” (implementing
and/or enforcing new or existing policies). Boggs advised
he would provide Council with a more precise cost to open
the new section so they could see how much the endowment
fund would be (depleted).
Citizens Forum
Pastor Nichols, of The Life Tabernacle on East Ohio Avenue
indicated they were getting ready to build a new church
facility on Krabill Road and would like some relief from
the tap-in fees, as they would be in excess of $30,000,
which is the same as the commercial rate vs. the residential
rate of approximately $3,000. Nichols advised he would like
Council to review their policies and perhaps adopt a procedure
for houses of worship that might help them and others in
the future. Nichols indicated they would like to begin construction
as soon as this issue was resolved.
Boggs advised churches were not specified in the residential
rate or the commercial rate schedule of fees. He noted churches
currently receive minimum water bills. Boggs advised no
new church facility has been built in probably 30 years
and he indicated there was nothing in the code related to
churches specifically regarding tap-in fees.
Russell advised he felt they should go with what was charged
for residential structures.
Copley advised recently Council waived the fee entirely
for a school and speculated whether Council would be interested
in the same for a church, which was also a public structure
and something to consider.
James agreed and advised if they waived for a school he
didn’t see why they couldn’t waive for a church.
He advised this church has been in Rittman for a number
of years and they wished to continue to be in Rittman at
this new location.
Pastor Nichols advised they came to Rittman in 1992 as a
temporary solution to overcrowding in an existing building
and found they liked Rittman. Nichols advised they chose
to sell several acres in Medina and remain in this city
because it was a very nice place for them to be. He advised
many of the families in the congregation have chosen to
move to Rittman and are citizens and taxpayers in the city.
Tim Stefanko of Salt Court advised he believed they should
set a general policy that anyone who fits the definition
of a non-profit organization should be able to tap-in at
the residential rate. Stefanko inquired if it made any sense,
as they were trying to attract new business, to charge those
kinds of rates to commercial enterprise for a one-time tap-in
fee and suggested Council look at the commercial rate schedule
as well.
Bonnie Kindig of Hilltop Drive congratulated Mike Burg on
his appointment to Police Chief as well City Manager Boggs
for the excellent job he was doing. Kindig advised she felt
this was the first time in twelve years during budget discussions
that the City Manager has been willing to work with Council
and give them all the facts and if he didn’t know
an answer, he said he didn’t know and she was glad
to see it finally happen. Kindig reiterated an incident
from years past regarding the cemetery and a water problem
where it was collecting in certain areas causing water to
lay in and around some graves, which she felt was due to
an allotment being installed. Kindig inquired if anything
has been done (to correct this problem). Kindig suggested
this situation be looked into to assure it has been corrected
before adding a new section to the cemetery.
Boggs advised he was not aware of any such situation.
Russell advised he remembered the situation and one such
grave was moved to another cemetery and he witnessed three
feet of water in the grave, which he believed was coming
from under Rittman Road from a pipe. Russell advised the
family wanted the grave to remain in Rittman Cemetery, but
for some reason the cemetery board would not allow them
to move it to another Rittman gravesite although the family
was willing to pay all expenses.
Mayor William Robertson thanked those who commented as well
as everyone for attending.
Old
Business
1 . Ord. No. 7446 An Ordinance of the Council of
the City of Rittman, Wayne
and Medina Counties, Ohio, Adding Chapter 735, Amusement
Arcades, to the Codified Ordinances of the City. Third Reading.
Ord. No. 7446 was read on third reading.
James advised he has had a lot of people come to him recently
regarding this issue and with all the vacant buildings in
town they were concerned about this becoming a gambling
city. He advised with this being brought to his attention
and the number one concern was the old bowling alley, he
felt it was a good time for this Council to go ahead and
adopt this (legislation) and get some money back out of
it.
Copley advised his main concern was with additional fees,
patrons could then be receiving less payout amounts, as
it was the main goal of the business owner to make a profit
and actually harm those they were trying to protect. Copley
advised upon further review of the ORC, as he was under
the misunderstanding that they (city) didn’t have
the authority to ban it completely. He advised because they
were home rule, they could not contradict the Ohio Revised
Code, but they could be more restrictive. He advised rather
than charging increased fees, he would prefer to ban these
establishments altogether.
Discussion continued regarding decisions the state has or
has not made regarding regulating these gaming establishments.
It was noted, the state was looking at capping the dollar
amount allowed for a payout per machine.
James advised he would agree with banning these establishments
if at all possible. He advised he would definitely like
to see under 735.07 (a) & (b) requiring 21 years of
age minimum and the addition of no operation on Sunday.
Telford inquired if banning these establishments was legal.
Boggs advised he heard comments that several cities have
been sued because of how they handled some of these situations
regarding these businesses although he wasn’t sure
that was one hundred percent accurate. Boggs advised he
felt they had to defer to research. Boggs advised if they
pass an ordinance, which bans these establishments, as they
were a Charter city, would they have an issue with grandfathering,
as there was an existing business (before passage of such
legislation).
Copley advised from what he has read, all the cases dealing
with cities being sued and so forth were when cities interpreted
these machines as gambling devices, which is not correct
according to the Ohio Revised Code. Copley advised he was
not able to find any cases where cities didn’t want
gambling and they didn’t want games of skill. Copley
advised he didn’t believe anything could be found
in the ORC, which says they have to allow games of skill
in their city. He advised they could not say these were
gambling devices and that was why we don’t want them.
Mayor Robertson inquired if they would lose pinball machines.
James advised pinball machines don’t give a payout,
but a point total.
Robertson advised they could be considered games of skill.
James advised he felt pinball fell under arcade games and
not a game of skill.
Russell advised he didn’t feel the city needed this
type of business nor did they need to offer this type of
“skill” to the community. He advised he knew
other cities were fighting to keep these businesses from
coming into their city and have set fees quite a bit higher
than what they were proposing. Russell advised he would
rather see people spending their extra money on their families
rather than putting it into these machines. Russell advised
he would like to see this legislation passed, but he would
like to increase the fees more than $500.
James advised he believed the games of skill business on
Main St. had a non-profit license (501©) and this was
how they were able to hold some of the bingo and card tournament
games.
Boggs concurred and advised the 501 © was a must to
be able to hold such card and bingo games and was not for
the game of skill machines to the best of his knowledge.
Robertson advised 100% of the profit had to go to a non-profit
organization designated on the 501©.
Russell advised if these businesses were going to be here
then he thought they should increase the fees.
Discussion included where to set the fees for these establishments.
James advised his concern was he didn’t like increasing
fees in order to “run a guy out”. He advised
he would rather ban the business altogether.
Copley advised they might raise the fees and run someone
out and yet someone else might be willing to pay that price,
as they know they can “make it up”. Copley advised
raising the fees doesn’t really accomplish that and
he doesn’t really want to see all of our empty buildings
inhabited by game parlors to the point where it wouldn’t
be safe for people to walk on the streets in this town.
Telford inquired if there have been any problems.
Boggs advised it was his understanding there was a reported
break-in at the S. Main St. building.
Copley advised he didn’t believe they would have a
lot of problems with just one or two of these (establishments),
but they do have a lot of empty buildings in town. Copley
advised empty buildings were easier to rent to someone who
might be fly by night and he didn’t want to see them
all fill up with gaming parlors.
Richard advised he liked the direction of the discussion,
but they (as taxpayers) pay a lot of money for attorneys
to look at this at the state level in Columbus and he had
hoped someone would have sent out a memo to local municipalities
stating if your Charter says this or that, then you can
do this or that, giving some options. Lapehn advised he
hasn’t heard that yet and it appeared as if the state
was still studying this issue and what he would be fearful
of was some gaming institute suing Rittman for banning these
establishments without some more research or contact with
a higher authority.
Copley advised he found where Lima, OH has placed a moratorium
on any new businesses (of this kind) opening in hopes that
the state will step in and make them illegal on the state
level.
Lapehn advised he believed something would happen at the
state level, he just didn’t believe they had an idea
of how to fight it yet. Lapehn advised they could always
amend this legislation if necessary, as he didn’t
know if in a month they would get any clarity from Columbus
on this issue. Lapehn advised right now he would be opposed
to the ban because he would be afraid of putting Rittman
out there as the first municipality to ban such establishments.
He advised it sounds like so many municipalities that have
imposed all sorts of fees to at least collect into the city.
Discussion included whether these machines would allow cash
payouts or if they would redeem a ticket at an office for
their winnings.
Copley suggested a way to label each machine by serial number.
Boggs advised they were looking into getting some sort of
seal for tracking purposes and someone would need to go
in and count them every month. Boggs advised the owners
have checked in at City Hall regarding zoning and sign permits
and if any legislation prohibits them and he made them aware
of this ordinance.
Russell advised under the licensing requirements stated
in this ordinance it says knowingly allow gambling on the
premises and could not be convicted of a crime of moral
turpitude. He inquired as to how they would know whether
these people were free of crime.
Boggs advised part of the licensing application process
would have to include a police background check.
Telford inquired if they would be grandfathered.
James advised until January 2008.
Russell advised that was for the one located in town before
this legislation, but any business after this was passed
would have to pay.
Bower advised he didn’t have it in the original draft,
but a previous meeting of this Council told him to put it
in the date.
Discussion included that it should be effective upon passage.
Bower advised the last clause would make it immediate, he
would just delete the date.
Telford
moved to amend the annual fee to $1,000 and the monthly
fee to $50. per machine and the age shall be a minimum of
21 yrs and no operation on Sunday, and delete effective
January 1, 2008, all Yeas on roll call and motion
carried.
James moved to adopt as amended, all Yeas on roll call and
motion carried.
James requested
a separate ordinance stating Bingo and card games were prohibited.
Bower advised if they have a valid 501© it would be
pretty tough for us to stop it, as long the business comports
with it by giving the money to some non-profit organization.
Bower advised regarding Home Rule as recently there was
a case regarding installing cameras in school zones for
traffic tickets, as you would think controlling speeders
in a school zone was local concern. Bower advised last year
Dayton had a single case of predatory lenders and sub-prime
and the Supreme Court struck that down. Bower advised a
couple of years ago they lost the power to control oil and
gas wells in Rittman as it was pre-empted by the Ohio Department
of Natural Resources. He advised asking him can this be
Home Rule/Local, your guess was as good as his because the
rules have been re-written over the last several years and
he could go on with more examples. Bower advised the state
has said it was a matter of statewide concern to control
gambling, which would pre-empt any municipal provision.
Copley advised he believed that pertained to gambling and
not games of skill.
Bower advised to play the devil’s advocate, the state
could come back and say they control gambling, this was
that provision, and games of skill are legal therefore,
we pre-empt you Rittman from prohibiting the games of skill.
Copley advised at that point, they would be at a loss to
control them, but at this point the state hasn’t said
they cannot control games of skill.
Bower advised they don’t say we can.
Copley advised they don’t say we can’t.
Bower advised the state’s argument would be implicitly,
since we’ve decided this is gambling and this is a
game of skill, the state has legislated this and have pre-empted
your Home Rule Policy. He advised that would be the argument,
we (Rittman) would face. Bower reiterated a situation with
a company that manufactures poker machines and approximately
8 years ago their stock was $5. a share and now it was over
$100. a share. Bower advised they were looking at a lot
of money and if they want to go to war, O.K, but they had
to have bullets and troops.
2.
Ord. No. 7450 An Ordinance of the Council of the City of
Rittman, Wayne
and Medina Counties and State of Ohio, Amending the Annual
Appropriation Ordinance No. 7423, As Amended According to
the Attached Sheet(s) and Declaring an Emergency. Second
and Third Reading.
Ord. No. 7450 was read on second reading.
James inquired if they were approaching a deadline and needed
passage that night.
Mann advised the expenditures and revenues needed to be
sent to the county before they pass the ordinance for spending
the money for the recreation center roof. She advised this
was the only reason she was asking for second and third
reading otherwise she could have waited until the meeting
in August.
Telford moved to suspend the rules and have third reading,
all Yeas on roll call and motion carried.
Ord. No. 7450 was read on third reading. James moved to
adopt, all Yeas on roll call and motion carried.
New Business
1 . Motion to Approve the Renewal of the Placement of Farmland
in an Agricultural District for Parcel Numbers 36-00610.000
and 62-00005.000 for Melba I. and Richard D. Miller Trustees.
It was noted, this property is abutting the Rittman Cemetery
to the west. James so moved, all Yeas on roll call and motion
carried.
2.
Ord. No. 7451_An Ordinance of the Council of the City of
Rittman, Wayne and Medina Counties, Ohio Approving the Issuance
of Notes from National City Bank for the Roof Repair to
the Municipal Natatorium and Declaring an Emergency. Three
Readings. Ord. No. 7451 was read on first reading.
Russell inquired as to what would happen if they sell these
bonds and then they win the lawsuit, what would happen to
the bonds and if they were still obligated or could they
pay it off.
Russell inquired if the lawsuit was won, they could pay
the notes off.
Mann advised these were notes and yes that was correct,
and they would not have to issue bonds as they were in anticipation
of…
James inquired as to where the figure of $506,000. was coming
from.
Boggs advised that was the bid plus 10% contingency.
James advised he would like to Table this ordinance until
after they pass the ordinance to accept the bid of the contractor.
James inquired if they don’t hire the lowest bidder
of Knoch Corporation and what if this amount of money isn’t
enough.
Mann advised they have to have the revenues in place before
they can have the expenditure. Mann advised if this amount
isn’t enough they would have to come to back Council
at a later date.
Bower advised they have to secure the money before they
can appropriate the money.
Copley inquired if they were to lose the lawsuit, where
would the money come from to pay this back.
Mann advised out of the capital improvement fund.
Copley inquired if the city could afford to do that.
Bower advised we don’t have a choice.
Mann advised it would be paid through the sale of bonds
over a 20-year period. Mann advised this ordinance was notes
in anticipation of bonds, which was a stopgap measure. She
advised it was one of those things where we either pass
this ordinance or we could not fix the roof. Mann advised
whether we would be forced to increase our city tax rate
or the way in which we give allowances for our tax rate,
if we saw we weren’t going to be able to fulfill our
obligation. Mann advised she could not foresee the outcome
of the lawsuit. She advised either we don’t fix the
roof or we fix the roof.
Copley advised that was his concern. He advised to him it
wasn’t such a matter of passing this ordinance, but
passing it in one night because they were spending half
a million of taxpayer dollars. He advised he had some very
big concerns because there was an unknown and while he hoped
it ended in our favor, there was an unknown. He advised
he didn’t want to gamble with the taxpayer’s
dollars and he would have a concern passing it in one night.
Russell advised in order for the recreation center roof
to be fixed, this had to be in place, as the contractor
wouldn’t start without the money.
Mayor Robertson advised they were looking at opening the
pool in October now and if they delay it another month they
were looking at November and then December. He advised he
would be concerned about weather issues in November &
December. The Mayor advised this has been out there for
a while and they have been talking about the recreation
center and they need money to fix the roof.
Russell advised he normally doesn’t like to pass something
on three readings in one meeting, but in this case he didn’t
feel they had any other alternative if they were going to
get the roof on.
James advised he was concerned they were going to have to
raise taxes because of this, as it was the big unknown.
He advised what if it turns into a Sterling water issue.
Russell advised just pray we win the lawsuit.
Mann advised if we don’t replace the roof, as the
recreation center was already going through so much money
now that it would be a moot point. She advised the general
fund would end up picking up any shortfalls because they
don’t have the income from the pool.
Mayor Robertson advised another winter on that roof, the
whole thing could come down.
Copley advised his concern was not spending the half a million
dollars, but rather not giving the public opportunity to
speak on the issue by passing it with three readings tonight.
Recreation Director Ivan Kovacevic advised if they delay
this anymore, they would be looking at the construction
phase going into winter and it wouldn’t be open until
next spring and he believed the public would be upset and
he felt it was time to move forward.
Bower advised as far as these bonds were concerned, they
were on a real tight timetable and had only until the 13th
of July. Bower advised he understood what Mr. Copley was
saying, but what would it really gain them to allow the
public to comment as who did he think would comment and
what would those comments be.
Copley advised that was the unknown and the public had a
right and the reason in the Charter we require three readings
so the people have a chance to comment. He advised it didn’t
mean that whenever it suits our needs, we pass it in three
readings. Copley advised if it were a piece of fire equipment
the city needed right now, we do that. He advised if it
was the recreation center that yes, it might cost us more
in the long run, but at least we gave the citizens an opportunity
to come out in favor or against it whatever the case.
Mann inquired if he cost the city another $60,000. that
would be O.K. and advised the recreation center was running
approximately a $10,000. deficit or more a month and she
felt it was worth it to have three readings that night.
Mann advised she understood what he was saying and she was
only putting this on the agenda this way because it was
her understanding Council wanted to move on the recreation
center roof and she worked real hard to get this ready for
Council’s approval tonight.
Copley advised he understood the arguments on both sides,
but his concern was not in one meeting.
James advised he didn’t like doing that either as
he felt the public deserves to have a chance to speak and
there was a man present who has stated before that he has
to wait until the next meeting to comment and ask questions
on new business. He advised if we pass it (tonight) he would
not be able to ask a question if he does have one.
Hanlon of Olds Avenue advised he had no questions.
Lapehn advised if we wait a month and he receives ten emails
with five in favor and five opposed or eight opposed and
two in favor and he was still in favor of having (this legislation
passed). He advised they have something in this city that
was a real jewel when it was working right and was he going
to come back and say, no he would like the pool plowed under
and just have a fitness facility. He advised in his mind
that was the choice and it was a pretty clear choice between
the pool or waiting until this five hundred thousand becomes
eight hundred thousand to build a new facility when the
roof falls in and everything has to be dug out and people
complain there was no pool at all. He advised if he received
five in favor and five opposed, he would still be in favor
because at this point he wants to have a recreation center
that operates in town.
Russell advised he sees a dire need for this and there has
been many a meeting where he didn’t feel they should
have second and third reading on the same night because
he didn’t feel they were emergencies, but he felt
if they were going to have a recreation center and a new
roof, they were in dire need to move forward with this (legislation).
He advised otherwise he felt they should just say, we aren’t
going to have a swimming pool because the roof was going
to fall if they don’t get it done and if we delay
it, the contractor was…well, I better not say anymore.
Telford moved to suspend the rules and have second and third
reading, upon roll call; Telford-Yes, Lapehn-Yes, James-Yes,
Copley-No, Russell-Yes and motion failed. (See Items
(e) and (f) below)
3 . Ord. No._7452_An Ordinance of the Council of
the City of Rittman, Wayne and Medina Counties, Ohio Accepting
the Bid of Knoch Construction for the Natatorium Roof Project
and Declaring an Emergency. Three Readings.
Ord. No. 7452 was read on first reading. It was noted, they
cannot pass this one without the passage of 7451, but they
could move it to second reading as the funds had to be appropriated
first.
James inquired where was the architect. He advised we are
going to give the O.K. for a contractor and he has never
seen a set of prints and he would like to know what was
going on before he can vote to hire a contractor. James
advised he could not agree that lowest was best as he felt
lowest and best bid was what got them in this situation
in the first place. He advised he felt they needed to spend
a little more money and not necessarily jump into the bottom
two on the bid sheet and get out of this lowest is the best
phase and he felt proof at the recreation center right now
was that the lowest is not the best bid.
Boggs advised he had the diagrams at a previous meeting
available for review.
James advised what he had in his packet was just a letter
from the architect, but he wanted to see a drawing. James
advised he wanted to see an engineer approved drawing 20
pages and all.
Boggs advised it was made available at a previous meeting.
James advised he didn’t remember seeing it. He advised
he wanted to have the architect in here and everything because
it doesn’t seem right. He advised it might have happened,
I don’t remember seeing prints, but I want an architect
in here telling what’s going to be done. He advised
he wants to go through it all, because he knows they did
it when they built the recreation center and he didn’t
remember seeing prints. James advised he wanted to see finalized
engineering drawings before he could allow a contractor
to get a hold of ‘em as this was his biggest problem.
James advised also “lowest ain’t the best”
and he can’t vote for the Knoch Corporation because
he felt lowest is best got us in our situation on our $506,000
bond issue.
Robertson advised they hired an architect who did due diligence
on background.
James advised he still picked lowest and best and I can’t
go along with that. He advised let’s spend a little
more money and get out of this lowest is best thing in the
City of Rittman. He advised he believed he could name three
buildings right now that there are definite problems with
because of lowest is best.
Mayor Robertson advised more expensive wasn’t necessarily
better.
Boggs advised now that the bids have been received, if there
was no real reason to bypass the lowest figure, it might
become an issue in litigation where they would have legitimate
grounds for $30,000 to $40,000 because we didn’t accept
the lowest bid.
James advised he understood that, but he felt calling it
“lowest is best ain’t right and that was why
I am not in favor of the Knoch Corporation because I am
in favor of spending more money to get out of that.”
Copley inquired if it was possible, since this is moving
to second reading, if they could have a representative here
at the next meeting.
Boggs advised he told the architect he didn’t believe
it was necessary to be here tonight.
James suggested a member of the Knoch Corporation and the
architect be available at the next meeting. He advised he
wanted to be able to pretty much drill the architect on
it to ensure this ain’t going to happen again.
Telford advised you think you’re qualified.
James advised he has architectural certification from the
career center and I do believe I can ask the architect questions
and I believe I am going to ask the questions if he can
be here.
Russell advised he believed when the natatorium was built
we took the highest bidder the last time and he put the
roof on and the reason we have the problem now. Russell
advised he believed they needed to look at another contractor
to do the work.
James agreed and advised he didn’t think they always
needed to go with the lowest and spend the least amount
of money to save a buck and end up in possible conflict.
Telford inquired if it was not part of the lawsuit to find
out who is at fault for this roof, as they didn’t
know if it was the architect or the contractor or someone
else.
Boggs advised yes, they were all pointing their fingers
at each other.
James advised his point was, why was this city always stuck
on lowest is the best.
The Mayor advised public bidding was lowest responsible
bidder and unless they can prove someone is not a responsible
bidder based on past performance or history.
James indicated other buildings in the city have been built
by not the lowest or highest bidder.
Robertson advised they were talking about the Knoch Corporation
and if they have a reason to not believe they are a responsible
bidder, we shouldn’t accept them, but…
James advised he felt they should have a representative
from all the bidding companies.
Russell advised James that he couldn’t criticize the
lowest bidder just because he was the lowest bidder.
Discussion continued whether the accepted bid from the construction
of the original roof was the lowest or highest bidder.
James advised he wasn’t going to vote for the Knoch
Corporation because the city had three buildings currently
that the “lowest and best” had some problems
with it in his eyes. James couldn’t recall the exact
contractors who did the work on these other city buildings,
but advised the EMS building was looking at expanding because
of the “poor architectural structure of the building”
and the fire department had a lot of “wasted space”
because of the architectural structure of that building
and now they were going with “lowest and best bids
to fix a problem” and that just didn’t seem
right.
Boggs inquired if Council had any interest in holding a
Special Meeting in order to move this forward and try to
get the roof underway before another winter set in.
Telford advised she was going to suggest that they set a
Special Meeting.
Copley advised the reason he did not suspend the rules was
so that people had a chance to comment and everyone here
knew that Special Meetings do not bring people out. He advised
the last issue he voted no to suspend the rules they held
a Special Meeting and was anyone there then and added most
likely not.
James advised he remembers the recreation center being built
in November when he was still going to school. James advised
construction work runs all throughout the year and that
was why they got paid the high dollars.
Telford advised this has been going on for a long time and
she sure would like to see it settled.
James advised they were just now starting to get the money.
Telford inquired why didn’t they ask their questions
when they started talking about all of this before.
James advised this was the first time he saw a monetary
value set for the replacement of the roof. He advised the
only other time they saw money was to pay the architect
and to this day he didn’t see why they were paying
him as he should be reporting to them and what was he doing,
sending them a letter.
Robertson reminded him that the City Manager felt it wasn’t
necessary for the architect to attend tonight’s meeting.
James advised we’ve had how many meetings on it and
I don’t think this guy was worth the money to start
with.
Telford inquired if they could have a Special Meeting next
week to get this expedited.
Copley moved to place on second, upon roll call; James-No,
Copley-Yes, Telford-Yes, Russell-Yes, Lapehn-Yes and motion
carried.
4. Discussion of Setting a Special Meeting
Discussion followed regarding when Council could meet.
James advised he was unavailable all this and next week
due to his work schedule unless Council wanted to come in
at 10:30 p.m
Russell advised he was willing to come in at midnight in
order to get this settled.
Telford advised she would be too in order to get this settled.
James advised they needed to make sure the public has adequate
awareness and
he felt Copley was right regarding Special Meetings.
Telford advised they couldn’t wait until August to
put this on the Agenda.
Robertson advised he could advertise a Special Meeting in
his news article.
Lapehn inquired as to the deadline for the notes.
Bower advised the 13th which locks in the interest rate
and everything.
Russell advised there would be a loss of $10,000 a month.
James advised if someone was willing to compensate him for
the salary he would lose at work, then sure, because if
he leaves any of the next three nights he would be taking
a cut.
Telford inquired if he would pay the taxpayer for the money
they would cost them.
James advised we could end up having to charge the taxpayers
anyway.
It was noted, Steve was not present to state when he would
be available.
Copley advised I am unavailable, sorry. He advised he was
not available this week or next week.
Discussion continued regarding whether they could meet the
23rd.
James advised he would have to check his schedule.
Lapehn advised he was available however they would have
to ask the Treasurer to come back with a new spec package
for them from a new issuer. He advised they would be asking
for at the meeting on the 23rd, a whole new bundle of note
information be arranged to move it onto second and third
reading.
Telford advised she didn’t like being responsible
to the citizens of this town to not be able to get the recreation
center (pool) open.
Copley advised he would have to check his schedule regarding
the 23rd, as he wasn’t sure he was available.
Lapehn inquired if it was possible to get a whole new set
of information available for the issuance of notes.
Mann advised yes, as this one was prepared last week and
overnighted to her. She advised basically they would have
to contact National City Bank as the interest rate was only
guaranteed so many days in advance, approximately a week
to a week and a half. Mann noted, the ordinance would have
to be redone and all of the other paperwork and the attorney
would be paid another $2,800 to redo all the paperwork.
Lapehn agreed and advised they have to check the city’s
credit each time and review all of the expense sheets, etcetera.
5.
Motion to Reconsider Suspending the Rules for Ordinance
No. 7451
Copley so moved, all Yeas on roll call and motion
carried.
6.
Ord. No. 7451 An Ordinance of the Council of the City of
Rittman, Wayne and Medina Counties, Ohio Approving the Issuance
of Notes from National City Bank for the Roof Repair to
the Municipal Natatorium and Declaring an Emergency.
Ord. No. 7451 having been read on first reading. Copley
moved to suspend the rules, all Yeas on roll call and motion
carried. Ord. No. 7451 was read on second and third reading.
Telford moved to adopt, all Yeas on roll call and motion
carried.
7 . Motion to Set a Special Meeting
for Monday, July 23, 2007 at 7:00 p.m. in
Council Chambers for the Purpose of Second and Third Reading
of Ordinance No. 7452 Accepting the Bid of Knoch
Corporation for the Natatorium Roof Project and have Representatives
Present from the Architectural Firm and the Proposed Contractor’s
Company for Discussion. James advised he would make sure
his schedule would allow him to attend this meeting. He
advised now that the notes were approved, they needed to
get the contractor hired and maybe after talking with “this
guy” he would like him and reconsider his “lowest
is not the best”. James so moved, all Yeas on roll
call and motion carried.
8. Motion to Approve the 2008 Tax Budget
James moved to approve, all Yeas on roll call and motion
carried.
9 . Motion to Approve Freshway Inc. DBA Rittman
IGA of 220 N. Main Street for a Liquor License to Robert,
Donald and Eileen Foutty.
Russell moved to approve,
It was noted, this was a commercial liquor license, which
prohibits consumption on the premises.
Council President Glen Russell stepped out of the
meeting at 9:05 p.m.
upon roll call; Lapehn-Yes, Copley-Yes, James-Yes, Telford-Yes,
Russell-No Vote Given and motion carried.
Council Member Russell returned to the meeting at
9:07 p.m.
10 . Motion to Waive the Tap-In Fees for New Construction
of The Life
Tabernacle on Krabill Road James advised if tap-in
fees could be waived for a school, they should be for a
church as well.
Russell advised he thought the new church facility should
be charged the residential rates. He inquired for what school
the tap-in fees were waived.
Boggs advised the Sterling Elementary School requested their
tap-in fees be waived and Council approved their request.
It was noted, the school paid to run the line to Sterling
and the City waived the tap-in.
Lapehn inquired if they weren’t charged double (outside
city limits) the rate in Sterling.
Boggs advised yes.
Lapehn advised so they would receive double the funds back
each month.
James advised they still voted to waive the tap-ins fees
for a building not even in the city limits and here was
a church that was dedicated to remaining in the community.
He advised he felt if they were going to waive something
for outside the community, they should for something that
was “going to stick around”.
Russell advised he didn’t vote to waive the tap-in
for the school in Sterling and he felt regardless of whether
it was a church or not, he didn’t feel they should
charge the commercial fee, but the residential fee would
be sufficient as it was a new building.
James so moved, upon roll call; Lapehn-No, James-Yes, Telford-No,
Russell-No, Copley-Yes and motion failed.
11.
Motion to Charge the Residential Rate to The Life Tabernacle
for the Tap-In to Water and Sewer in the City of Rittman.
It was noted the total cost would be approximately $2,825.00.
It was noted, churches are charged the monthly minimum residential
rate regardless of their usage.
James inquired of Pastor Nichols if he would be happy with
the city charging him the residential rate for the tap-in
fee.
Nichols advised absolutely.
Copley so moved, all Yeas on roll call and motion
carried.
Copley requested an ordinance to change the fees charged
churches for tap-ins be brought for Council’s consideration
at a future meeting.
12.
Motion to Go Into Executive Session to Discuss a Personnel
Matter and Invite the City Manager – 9:12 p.m.
Copley so moved, all Yeas on roll call and motion
carried.
13.
Motion to Come Out of Executive Session – 9:18 p.m.
Copley so moved, all Yeas on roll call and motion
carried.
City Manager’s Remarks -
City Manager Larry Boggs had no remarks.
1.
Approval of Financial Report for June
James moved to approve, all Yeas on roll call and motion
carried.
2.
Finance Director’s Remarks
Finance Director Lucinda Mann thanked Council for reconsidering
and passing
Ordinance No. 7451 for the issuing of notes, as well as
passing the appropriation amendment Ordinance No. 7450.
Council
Remarks
Council Member James Johnson thanked everyone for coming
and thanked those who stayed until the end of the meeting.
James advised he felt there should be a letter sent from
all of Council and the Mayor congratulating Police Chief
Burg on his new position. He advised he would also like
to see a letter go out to Ken Mann thanking him for all
of his community service he does throughout the year outside
of working for the city.
Council Member Faye Telford commended Ken Mann for his work
with the Boy Scouts and their camping. Telford advised they
were provided information on land available from the Wayne
Economic Development Council and suggested any land the
city chooses to develop be in the Rittman School District.
It was noted, the city had no control over the school districts.
Copley advised he didn’t want to tie Rittman’s
hands and prevent growth in the city to try to force it
be located in the Rittman School District, but if the opportunity
presents itself.
Discussion included the school districts of land available
in Rittman.
Boggs advised unfortunately most of our areas, which are
undeveloped, are in the flood plain, which create a major
headache. He advised it was a little easier if they weren’t
below the flood plain by a tremendous amount. Boggs advised
the old Mainway Market has been identified as 5’ &
6’ below the flood plain and to build in the surrounding
area would require you to build up the property 5’
or 6’. Boggs advised the old MDM store on Sterling
Ave. has a new owner and has been totally revamped and a
tremendous job has been done on the remodel.
Telford thanked everyone for coming. Telford advised she
has only seen one new “Welcome to Rittman” sign
so far, but she felt it was placed too high and she doesn’t
drive a truck. She advised she actually missed it the first
time through because it was higher than her eye level and
suggested they be lowered.
Boggs advised he felt they were placed at standard height,
but he would have Service Director Simpson look into the
situation.
Telford advised otherwise she felt the signs looked very
nice.
Council Member Charles Copley thanked everyone for coming.
He advised with regards to Rotary Park by City Hall, the
memo stated a cigarette receptacle would be added and he
felt that would not be proper to install according to the
new smoking ban. He advised he felt they should make sure
it doesn’t get placed in our public area. Copley advised
people aren’t to be smoking in a public area anyway
and he felt it might encourage them to do so.
Council Member Richard Lapehn thanked Councilman Copley
for his reconsideration of Ord. No. 7451. Lapehn thanked
Finance Director Mann for all of her hard work in light
of her father’s illness and all the work she was doing
working evenings keeping things going for the city, as he
appreciated it.
Council Member Glen Russell thanked everyone for being here.
Russell advised there was a weed situation that needed to
be addressed in the (Hills-n-Dales) allotment by the High
School where there were a few vacant lots.
Boggs advised he wanted to make Council aware that he changed
policy regarding the city’s weed ordinance. He advised
if there was a vacant lot beside an occupied house, they
would continue to force the owner to cut the grass, but
if there were just vacant lots, he has not placed an emphasis
this year on forcing them to cut their lot.
Russell advised he felt they should all be mowed because
of the mosquitoes and if there was an ordinance stating
they were required to mow, people would be confused as to
whether they should mow or not if he makes exceptions to
certain people.
Mayor William Robertson thanked Council for their discussion
on the recreation center ordinances, as it was a huge issue
and they did due diligence and served their constituents
well by having discussions and considering expenditures.
He advised he felt that was great that due to the discussions
they were able to go back and pass that ordinance. He advised
we all needed to be very hopeful that we win the lawsuit,
as it was a huge risk and we were all doing the best we
could for the citizens right now. Mayor Robertson advised
Planting Day downtown would be Saturday, July 13th at 9:00
am and he encouraged everyone to come out and help. Robertson
advised he didn’t know how many watch WOIO and have
seen the commercial for the weather, as there was a lady
named Arlene from Rittman plugging the weather and there
were all these shots of Rittman such as the water tower,
Bauman’s Orchard and the shopping center. He advised
he didn’t know who Arlene was, but she was getting
some free advertising for Rittman. He advised the Sleepwalker
Festival was coming up on Thursday, July 26th & Friday,
July 27th and should be a great time and the Chamber has
been working really hard. He advised there would be a new
3 on 3 basketball tournament and a long drive contest. The
Mayor reminded Council there were three seats up for the
election in November and petitions were due mid August.
He advised the Sleepwalker Festival was always a good time
to get those petitions out if you were considering running
and he certainly hoped there would be candidates for those
seats. He advised to spread the word around that there were
open seats.
It was noted, Council Member Russell already filed his petition
with the Wayne County Board of Elections and would be a
candidate on the ballot this November.
1.
Approval of Vouchers 46376 thru 46621 Including Then and
Now
Certificates. Questions were asked regarding #’s 46471
& 46475. James moved to approve, all Yeas on roll call
and motion carried.
Motion to Adjourn – 9:33 p.m.
James
so moved, all Yeas on roll call and motion carried.
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